tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.comments2023-03-30T05:03:27.137-07:00handke-dramaSUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-47995453434307418482016-10-25T16:15:01.734-07:002016-10-25T16:15:01.734-07:00buen post, me ha gustado mucho la informacio Peter...buen post, me ha gustado mucho la informacio Peter Handke fue un gran artista. saludos amarres de amorhttp://hechizosdeamor.biz/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-42835340950270203822016-05-17T10:54:01.397-07:002016-05-17T10:54:01.397-07:00well,there is an addition on the main charactes to...well,there is an addition on the main charactes to come. its a bitch of a play to get a complete handle on, it keops shfiting under my hand. but i will definitely stoop once done with some notes on the CAPO/ HAUPTLING & his MOLL & DIE UNBEKANNTE. X MRSUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-69177186171685780902016-05-17T07:21:55.428-07:002016-05-17T07:21:55.428-07:00the whole project looks interesting. i'll look...the whole project looks interesting. i'll look forward to reading it after i read the play itself. if i live that long!<br />Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-64203578247504679792016-01-29T17:48:32.479-08:002016-01-29T17:48:32.479-08:00looking forward to this Michaellooking forward to this MichaelScott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-90455034785941659022015-06-22T13:21:21.478-07:002015-06-22T13:21:21.478-07:00I would agree that Mr. Adler is deficient in his d...I would agree that Mr. Adler is deficient in his description & understanding of the play.franzangsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336255854440985701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-58433282103253172882015-02-08T19:45:43.960-08:002015-02-08T19:45:43.960-08:00That's great - here's a wish for its succe...That's great - here's a wish for its success in Chicago! (If only there were more interest in staging Handke here in New York)...<br /><br />BTW, word is out that Wim Wenders will be directing a film of the play, in June:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/1A8vmruPetrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649628235333856609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-8644864925513331902014-09-27T17:48:34.441-07:002014-09-27T17:48:34.441-07:00Nice work by a thoughtful novelist.Nice work by a thoughtful novelist.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-71656786872004031602012-09-02T09:37:27.497-07:002012-09-02T09:37:27.497-07:00Michael, I had read much of this before but just t...Michael, I had read much of this before but just this morning read the whole thing. As always, it is bristling with briliance (and I don't just mean the colors).<br /><br />It pleases me that you like the translation. Coming from a fine translator, it means a lot.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-70127219841457497182011-09-21T06:59:08.358-07:002011-09-21T06:59:08.358-07:00HERE IS THE OPENING OF A NEGATIVE REVIEW OF THE PE...HERE IS THE OPENING OF A NEGATIVE REVIEW OF THE PERFORMANCE, THE REST AT THE REVISTA OF REVIEWS PAGE THAT COLLECTS REVIEWS:<br />SAMMLUNG BEIHNAHE ALLER REZENSIONEN/ REVIEWS<br />http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2011/08/immer-noch-sturm-still-storm-stormy.html<br /><br />Vergessen wir einmal, wie der Regisseur Dimiter Gotscheff seinen Schauspieler des Jahres, Jens Harzer, förmlich zur Schlachtbank führt, indem er ihn in all seiner Begrenztheit in einem beinahe halbstündigen Schlussmonolog vorführt. Immer wieder muß Harzer hin und her tigern, zwei Meter nach rechts, zwei Meter nach links und dabei sprödeste handkesche Agitprop-Texte aufsagen.<br /><br />Der typische Harzerton, jenes irgendwo zwischen Gaumen und Nase entstehende Nölen, daß noch in Jette Steckels »Don Carlos« so viel klar machen konnte, zur Brechung des Museumstextes führte und wohl auch ausschlaggebend für den Jahrestitel war, der die ganze Kollegenschar besoffen machte – endlich ein Anti-Schiller zwischen Poesie und Alltag, weg mit den alten Zöpfen undsofort – dieser Ton demaskiert sich hier eindeutig als die immer wiederkehrende Masche eines recht guten, aber eben doch nur durchschnittlich guten Schauspielers.<br /><br /> SAMMLUNG BEIHNAHE ALLER REZENSIONEN/ REVIEWS<br />http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2011/08/immer-noch-sturm-still-storm-stormy.htmlSUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-90211485481029039882011-09-08T09:07:25.023-07:002011-09-08T09:07:25.023-07:00Yes, Scott, it has been marvelous to dwell on this...Yes, Scott, it has been marvelous to dwell on this overall marvelous play with an equal. Regrettably none of our equals and betters in Europe have joined us or helped clue us in on how some matters in the premiere performance were handled. The overall inadequacy of the reviewing organs - however, there is still time. The same ensemble will do STURM at the Burg Theater in Vienna, which will then enter the repertoire of the Thalia Theater in Hamburg. If further reviews come in I will add them to those assembled at:<br />http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2011/08/immer-noch-sturm-still-storm-stormy.html<br /><br />I am still troubled by Act IV, subsequent to its fine intro - you say "dialectical" ,<br />it is certainly true that in fighting a hegemon you become, adapt, cannot but<br />help adopt some of its features. Just think of that crazy little revolutionary who hailed from Rosario in the province of Santa Fe, Argentina. How "cunning" is our great artist writer Handke in this instance. You will recall my initial reaction: "That is how Haensenklein" imagines the resistance!" Subsequently I tried to envision how that fourth Act might play, and satisfied myself that there were at least two stylized ways of doing so. I think part of my problem with that Act continues to be that by comparison with the heartfeltness of the first three acts, and Act V, how amazingly intimate they manage to be despite Handke's artistic objectivity... this Act IV in the way SNOWCHICK/ Ursula & Gregor/ JONATAN speak is anything but intimate... they have become flat, masks, their souls their complexity is masked. How cunning the dialectic, how cunning Handke, how cunning the fox of history! Think of the marvelous way Handke handles the cliche that concentration camps have become by turning Mauthausen into a fairy tale land! Something similar, on that order, might have occurred to him about what is now mythic, the origins of Partisan Belgrade soccer team name! Also the absence of mention of the ANSCHLUSS of Austria's pretend identity of having been a victim of Nazism [or of its own delusions!] ctd. to trouble me. Who knows whether Handke's first readers, Peter Hamm and his editors Raimund Fellinger and H. J. Drescher, and I imagine Klaus Peymann, who was meant to direct the premiere, brought up these matters - it appears it is no longer the case, since Handke claims that his arrogance lies in the past, that he "sends [them] the m.s. and they print it." Only their memoirs will tell us I suppose.<br /><br />Rereading the opening of your translation of VOYAGE BY DUGOUT the other day I noticed<br />how flat the conventions of that tradition of socially committed theater had become, within which that particular play exists, perhaps as a final highpoint, and I felt that it required the kind of Shakespearean opening that Handke has in his PREPARATIONS FOR IMMORTALITY, bold, immediate strokes. So much for now from yours truly in Seattle where the weather ctd. marvelous I keep looking over my shoulder!SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-75549811530490782022011-09-08T07:34:22.290-07:002011-09-08T07:34:22.290-07:00Michael,
I've just read through this entire co...Michael,<br />I've just read through this entire collection and have a few last (for the moment) thoughts.<br /><br />1. the fact that this play is about time and thus ought to play out in time, e x p a n d e d t i m e, as you put it, makes perfect sense to me.<br /><br />That doesn't make it any less difficult; in fact, it makes it more difficult. But why not a difficult play? That's exactly what I thought coming out of the premiere of Voyage by Dugout, to whit, this won't make it to Broadway but I'm damned grateful to have been here tonight, grateful that Peter and Peymann trusted me to sit here for 3 hours, trusted me to listen to long monologues, trusted me to follow a difficult and rewarding set of ideas.<br /><br />2. The litanies I mentioned above, about which you wondered if I caught their playfulness -- I did indeed. They're wonderfully playful, sly, and mocking. They emphasize, I think, that while GOD will not play a positive part in this play, some of the literary forms that have grown up around GOD, if properly ironic, might be filled with a different kind of wine.<br /><br />3. I'd love to see the play in a grove of apple trees; and if a cuckoo or a nightingale (both of which I first heard while looking for Peter Handke with Zarko -- the cuckoo in the hills above Griffen -- or while traveling with Peter -- at the bridge over the Drina in Visegrad) happened to call, I might break down in tears, at which point a good Brechtian director might employ some kind of Verfremdung to get me back out of my emotional romanticizing.<br /><br />4. This play first caught my interest with the quality of its sentences, with the richness of the early ideas. It won my devotion when I realized that the Partisans -- the people fighting against the Nazis and for the Slovenian language, the GOOD GUYS -- slipped into the language of their oppressors. At this point the play became dialectical for me, shredding the Heimat simplicities that threatened to inundate us with milk and cheese and hay and the pure language of pure country people.<br /><br />5. Finally, while I focus on language, you focus on family dynamics (not so much Handke family dynamics but those of the characters), as only an analyst is able. Perhaps this has been a good, double-visioned reading of a play that deserves a lot of good readers and attentive audiences.<br /><br />Thanks for the invitation.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-88175961099947914222011-09-06T07:26:06.120-07:002011-09-06T07:26:06.120-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/05680450955867041830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-28873047122903515482011-09-06T07:03:20.920-07:002011-09-06T07:03:20.920-07:00Looking at the Wikipedia entry it would appear tha...Looking at the Wikipedia entry it would appear that Handke got his publisher Unseld to give Hohl a life toward the end; and since Handke also is one of the chief movers behind the Petrarca prize, Hohl receiving that can be counted to Handke's good deeds for literature. Handke had been material in re-diccovering Hermann Lenz, in the 70s. Whom I read as pretty much as a kid, on recommendation from Thomas Mann. I will check whether my U. of Washington library has Hohl. xx michael r. <br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/mike.roloff1?ref=nameSUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-34619817554435326752011-09-06T06:24:15.226-07:002011-09-06T06:24:15.226-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/05680450955867041830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-19244242862539742772011-09-06T04:55:07.292-07:002011-09-06T04:55:07.292-07:00following your link i notice that we share the tw...following your link i notice that we share the twitchelmore.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_HohlSUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-20788186888120472462011-09-06T04:04:32.871-07:002011-09-06T04:04:32.871-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/05680450955867041830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-76661334480362578972011-09-05T15:47:38.820-07:002011-09-05T15:47:38.820-07:00There is one matter I left out in what was meant a...There is one matter I left out in what was meant as a last comment on IMMER NOCH STURM that I introduced into the main tex.... its element of time. Various reviewers comment on the length of the play, and also on some in the premiere audience nodding off by the 2nd Act. That got me to thinking how I would direct it and where I would want to direct it, to allow the play's sense of eternal time unfold without putting my gnats to sleep. In an Orchard? On a meadow? Certainly in a rural surround? But an entirely "natural one"? I recall, will forever, Goethe's IPHEGENIA IN TAURIS, very much of a peace play, being done in an olive grove in Dubrovnik, more than 50 years ago, I was still a teenager. That seemed a conducive setting. Thus maybe an entirely natural surrounding after all. Breaks? How many? One after each act, so that the audience has a chance to absorb and reflect, for what it has heard to sink in, pauses of that kind are easier in natural surround. One could also just have actors read the parts. After all, the demands made on the actors are fairly extreme, and on the "I", stupendous. All important I think is the sense of a l o n g t i m e of dureé to prevail.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-47250289690434514852011-09-05T15:28:53.456-07:002011-09-05T15:28:53.456-07:00I think someone who might know more about Hohl is ...I think someone who might know more about Hohl is Lothar Struck who runs the http://www.begleitschreiben.net/<br />blog and who uses a Hohl quote at the top.<br />I have not followed up on Gamper and Handke mentioning him. I have followed up too much already, but thanks for telling me why you contacted me in this fashion. <br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/mike.roloff1?ref=nameSUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-70025875644222037702011-09-05T13:52:29.641-07:002011-09-05T13:52:29.641-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/05680450955867041830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-81778310443665340402011-09-05T13:00:44.119-07:002011-09-05T13:00:44.119-07:00Ludwig Hohl believed that real thinking itself was...Ludwig Hohl believed that real thinking itself was a manifestation of courage. On the udder hand: to think about what constitutes thinking can lead not just into clear paths but into infinite thickets! but why that question * and put anonymously! x michael r.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-89458179058250435612011-09-05T11:49:06.445-07:002011-09-05T11:49:06.445-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/05680450955867041830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-30229863067491618562011-09-04T11:07:06.704-07:002011-09-04T11:07:06.704-07:00Since i am doing a note for the revista-of-reviews...Since i am doing a note for the revista-of-reviews<br />page on all of Lothar's takes on Handke and Handke related texts<br />A NOTE ON LOTHAR STRUCK'S REVIEW OF <br /> <br /><br />FOREVER STORM<br /><br />THAT DERIVES FROM A BLOG ENTRY ON STRUCK'S <br /><br />PIECES ABOUT HANDKE FOR THE<br /><br />REVISTA-OF-REVIEWS BLOG<br /><br />http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2010/03/handke-revista-of-reviews.html<br /><br /> <br /><br />I came into contact with Lothar Struck who conducts the "begleitschreiben" blog http://www.begleitschreiben.net/ the successor to <br /><br />http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/ quite some years ago now when he contacted me on seeing a comment I had left at at something about Handke in Die Zeit and we then did on on-line interview about Handke's engagement in matters Yugoslav defense of the Serbs being made entirely culpable for the crimes committed during the disintegration of Yugoslavia, a matter that I had given considerable thought to. This interview has not made the transfer of Struck's blog from two day net to his newest electronic incarnation. Initially, it was a pleasure to be in touch with someone who knew Handke's work and who appreciated it, otherwise I would not write this post mortem to a relationship that foundered because Struck ultimately is an adoring fan who a lacks the element of critique in is appreciation, among other failures of discernment. In other words, Struck, who has even assumed the pseudonym Gregor Keuschnig Handke's own humorous self-appellation as of A MOMENT OF TRUE FEELING and also the protagonist of MY ONE YEAR IN THE NO-MAN'S BAY, is such a one to whom the "real" Keuschnig says in NO-MAN'S BAY, when he comes adoring, "I am not the one." As such, this adoration in someone who is not devoid of critical judgment at other times does no real harm, although it can be said that such adoration then fails to foster understanding. And I am not talking about fine points here. Nor is Struck all that sensitive or stellar a reader. To start with a few current posting of his, both at Glanz & Elend, where Struck writes both under the pseudonym and under his own name:<br /><br />http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=38697730&pid=r&_charset_=&bcd=%C3%B7&t=s&query=keuschnig<br /><br />http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=38697730&pid=r&_charset_=&bcd=%C3%B7&t=s&query=struck<br /><br />and<br /><br /> http://www.begleitschreiben.net/peter-handke-immer-noch-sturm/<br /><br />Let me give a few instances. Lothar does a deceptively nice job, more thorough an useful than any of the paid reviewers who may earn a few Euros but are not allowed the space to do a proper job, and thus become quite Slick - Weinzierl, Pilz, et al - in describing the opening scene of IMMER NOCH STURM Here <br /><br />Ein Ich-Erzähler sitzt auf einer Bank auf einer Wiese, in der Heide, im Jaunfeld. Ein Apfelbäumchen behängt mit etwa 99 Äpfeln gibt ihm Schutz und er kommt ins Phantasieren, ins Heraufbeschwören. Aufmarsch der Vorfahren. Sie erscheinen ihm - oder er lässt sie erscheinen? Er ist der einzige, der sie noch träumt: Nicht ich lasse euch nicht in Ruhe. Es läßt mich nicht in Ruhe, nicht ruhen. Ihr laßt mich nicht in Ruhe. Im Laufe der Erzählung (oder ist ein Drama?) frischt der Wind auf, kommt von vorne, von hinten und von oben, wird zum Sturm (zum Erinnerungssturm sowieso). Und die Landschaft, die Kindsheimat, nein: die Bleibe, dieses wiedergeholte Kärnten verändert sich im Laufe dieser Ahnen-Epiphanien. Das ist mehr als nur die Suche nach den eigenen Wurzeln. Vielleicht ist "Immer noch Sturm" das wirkliche Nachtbuch Peter Handkes (und das vor wenigen Wochen erschienene ist nur ein Präludium).SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-12284674696004604762011-09-04T11:05:41.694-07:002011-09-04T11:05:41.694-07:00Since i am doing a note for the revista-of-reviews...Since i am doing a note for the revista-of-reviews<br />page on all of Lothar's takes on Handke and Handke related texts<br />A NOTE ON LOTHAR STRUCK'S REVIEW OF <br /> <br /><br />FOREVER STORM<br /><br />THAT DERIVES FROM A BLOG ENTRY ON STRUCK'S <br /><br />PIECES ABOUT HANDKE FOR THE<br /><br />REVISTA-OF-REVIEWS BLOG<br /><br />http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2010/03/handke-revista-of-reviews.html<br /><br /> <br /><br />I came into contact with Lothar Struck who conducts the "begleitschreiben" blog http://www.begleitschreiben.net/ the successor to <br /><br />http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/ quite some years ago now when he contacted me on seeing a comment I had left at at something about Handke in Die Zeit and we then did on on-line interview about Handke's engagement in matters Yugoslav defense of the Serbs being made entirely culpable for the crimes committed during the disintegration of Yugoslavia, a matter that I had given considerable thought to. This interview has not made the transfer of Struck's blog from two day net to his newest electronic incarnation. Initially, it was a pleasure to be in touch with someone who knew Handke's work and who appreciated it, otherwise I would not write this post mortem to a relationship that foundered because Struck ultimately is an adoring fan who a lacks the element of critique in is appreciation, among other failures of discernment. In other words, Struck, who has even assumed the pseudonym Gregor Keuschnig Handke's own humorous self-appellation as of A MOMENT OF TRUE FEELING and also the protagonist of MY ONE YEAR IN THE NO-MAN'S BAY, is such a one to whom the "real" Keuschnig says in NO-MAN'S BAY, when he comes adoring, "I am not the one." As such, this adoration in someone who is not devoid of critical judgment at other times does no real harm, although it can be said that such adoration then fails to foster understanding. And I am not talking about fine points here. Nor is Struck all that sensitive or stellar a reader. To start with a few current posting of his, both at Glanz & Elend, where Struck writes both under the pseudonym and under his own name:<br /><br />http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=38697730&pid=r&_charset_=&bcd=%C3%B7&t=s&query=keuschnig<br /><br />http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=38697730&pid=r&_charset_=&bcd=%C3%B7&t=s&query=struck<br /><br />and<br /><br /> http://www.begleitschreiben.net/peter-handke-immer-noch-sturm/<br /><br />Let me give a few instances. Lothar does a deceptively nice job, more thorough an useful than any of the paid reviewers who may earn a few Euros but are not allowed the space to do a proper job, and thus become quite Slick - Weinzierl, Pilz, et al - in describing the opening scene of IMMER NOCH STURM Here <br /><br />Ein Ich-Erzähler sitzt auf einer Bank auf einer Wiese, in der Heide, im Jaunfeld. Ein Apfelbäumchen behängt mit etwa 99 Äpfeln gibt ihm Schutz und er kommt ins Phantasieren, ins Heraufbeschwören. Aufmarsch der Vorfahren. Sie erscheinen ihm - oder er lässt sie erscheinen? Er ist der einzige, der sie noch träumt: Nicht ich lasse euch nicht in Ruhe. Es läßt mich nicht in Ruhe, nicht ruhen. Ihr laßt mich nicht in Ruhe. Im Laufe der Erzählung (oder ist ein Drama?) frischt der Wind auf, kommt von vorne, von hinten und von oben, wird zum Sturm (zum Erinnerungssturm sowieso). Und die Landschaft, die Kindsheimat, nein: die Bleibe, dieses wiedergeholte Kärnten verändert sich im Laufe dieser Ahnen-Epiphanien. Das ist mehr als nur die Suche nach den eigenen Wurzeln. Vielleicht ist "Immer noch Sturm" das wirkliche Nachtbuch Peter Handkes (und das vor wenigen Wochen erschienene ist nur ein Präludium).SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-52341414432197949722011-09-02T19:42:12.538-07:002011-09-02T19:42:12.538-07:00Scott, these are litanies all right, but I have a ...Scott, these are litanies all right, but I have a hunch that you are not appreciating how a dyed-in-the-wool Catholic like our Peter can also have his fun with litanies, and these two are marvelous examples of it. LAMB SHANK FRIED IN BACON, HAVE MERCY ON US.... the second example you cite segues into a more serious note after, initially, being on the same wave length as the first, that is our artist and his variations! m.r.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2387157545353176427.post-53313483269255888112011-09-01T16:02:22.910-07:002011-09-01T16:02:22.910-07:00Michael,
although I've not commented for a wh...Michael,<br /><br />although I've not commented for a while, I've been reading your thoughtful analyses with great interest.<br /><br />A couple of thoughts of my own about the fourth act.<br /><br />Among other things, this is an act informed by the forms of religious litany.<br /><br />At least twice the action of the act is stopped by litanies:<br /><br />p. 105, for instance, where Jonathan-Gregor talks about food the way a priest would talk about GOD --<br /><br />Die halbe Zeit dort oben im Wald reden wir nur vom Essen. Lammkeule in Speck gebraten, erbarme dich unser. Heidensterz in Grammelschmalz geschwenkt, bitte für uns. . . .<br /><br />or on p. 123 the man and the woman lay out their GOD --<br /><br />Die Frau: Und das Einstampfen des Sauerkrauts, das Einlegen der Essiggurken -- Der Mann: Und das Eintreten der Söhne und der Töchter in die Stube -- Die Frau: Heilig war der Frieden, heilig, heilig, heilig.<br /><br />This is the man who commanded that his family not use the word GOD. In these scenes, it seems to me, the blood and body of CHRIST are being substantiated into bread and wine.<br /><br />Hallelujah!Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.com